Well, the definition of a lie is that it's intentional. if you tell me something false but you think it's true, you aren't lying. Did the architects of Reaganomics know they were stating thing that were not true? At least one of them, my father, Norman Ture, did. How do I know? Because he apologized and recanted on his deathbed. Am I lying? As you weren't there, you'll have to take my word for it. More important is the group of worthy anti-intellectuals calling their opponents "Socialists." Are they lying? You'd have to ask them. Are they wrong? Of course. Ronald Reagan was such a liar, he justified his own mendacity to himself. when he was asked whether he knew Oliver North was trading arms to Iran in exchange for funds to the Contras, in violation of law, he said "A few months ago, I told the American people that we did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions tell me that's true...." https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4564154/user-clip-my-heart-intentions. This is even more of a lie. He said it was all about trading arms to Iran to release 7 American hostages. It wasn't. It was about funding the Contras, in violation of federal law, and the way the National Security Council was fostering crack cocaine trafficking by the Contras into the US. https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu//NSAEBB/NSAEBB2/index.html. This is the Reagan administration, promoter of neoliberalism, a founder of modern gaslighting.